I doubt that it will be 2209.  There is a sizable contingent who believe that those states should bear some responsibility for their actions.  They'll have delegates, but they won't have the full slate, imo.

Obama picked up most of the uncommitted delegates in Michigan during the conventions.  Even if MI and FL are seated in full (really unlikely), Obama is still too far ahead to lose.  If the number becomes 2209, he will hit that as well in June.

you right. don't even listen anybody who will say otherwise

OMG!!! I'm soooooo Happy!!!!

It should be clear to everyone that 2209 will NOT be the end number, and that the delegations will NOT be sat exactly as the polls went - maybe Florida, but the MI compromise that the Obama camp has agreed on will be the one the MI democrats will be touting, and that will likely be the one they accept.

... after the final primary on June 3, superdelegates (now being held back so as not to make the primary campaigns seem totally irrelevant) will be pouring out in Obama's favor, pushing him well over that number in short order.

He's got a general election campaign to run, people.

It won't matter.

You see, Obama will STILL have more then half of the pledged delegates and will STILL be closer to winning then Hillary is to him.  She faces a deficit that cannot be overcome by trickery at this point.

Why are you guys so math-challenged?

I also love the S-D switching arguments that are given here, as if hundreds of Super-Delegates are going to switch and take it from Obama.  Here's a stat for ya:

Number of Obama's Pledged Super-delegates who have switched to Clinton: 0.

Number who WILL switch to Clinton: 0.

You should join Wolfson on fantasy island.  No way do total delegates get seated.  

you  do realize that the only way that MI & FL will be counted in full is if Obama gets some delegates out of both MI & FL. That means that even with MI & FL it's OVER.

Its not OVER until November and you will need every single Clinton voter you can get so play nice

I can't honestly predict what the number will eventually be (2209 seems unlikely to me, as that would represent NO punishment for the moving up of their primaries).

But I welcome a solution to MI and FL, and hope that they get some representation at the convention.

What do you know that we don't?  Got an inside on the RBC?

Or... is it that it might.  Or it might stay 2204.5.  Or it might be some value in between.

Your wishes, no matter how fervent, have not yet acquired the status of fact.

Why would the 48 states that followed the rules want to reward two states that did not?

Remember it was the Republicans who voted to move the dates of the primaries.

Not true.  In Michigan it was democrats that decided to break the rules (many of them Hillary supporters including the governor.)   In Florida the republican controlled legislature did pass the bill moving it forward but the vote was 118-2... and there is the infamous youtube video of the democratic party leader in florida laughing @ the howard dean for trying to stop them.

because it was 'over' about two months ago, when Hillary gave up on Wisconsin.

And by the way, diarist, you're posting falsehoods, at least regarding Michigan-- the primary was moved up by a Democratic House and signed by the Democratic Governor.  Maybe you should check your facts before chanting "the Republican legislature did it," since you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.