The reason her diaries are rec'd is because of what she writes and how she writes.
I have never gone to H44 and I have only checked out TM's site maybe... 3 times.
So once again, I call Bullshit on your comment.
I really wonder if any of you O supporters realize what really happens at Dkos. The thing is, that you may not notice the abuse the admins do because the audience is much larger then here at MyDD. Plus you are on the same "side" as kos in who you support and who you attack.
Sorry, Linfar was TOTALLY BUSTED today and last week.
you want links?
Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254
What did she do this time?
to come over here and rec her diaries. IndyDem99 does it as well. Kind of sad.
Messages requesting recs like the following go out pretty much each time one of the 'prominent' MYDD Rec listers put a diary up.
Guys in all the time I've been on the blog no one has EVER gone in and > deleted sections of my diary or deleted my post. Not even at > DailyKos. I included a brief reference to those 400 bloggers BO's > supposedly hired and the bots bitched up a blue streak to Johnathan > Singer - admin. at MyDD. So they warned me and then deleted the first > chunk of my diary tonight. > > I just thought I'd mention this in case you're wondering why my diary > looks like it starts in the middle. Do me a favor and go rec my diary > up - get it onto the rec list ok? Thanks. > > --- In HillarysVoice@yahoogroups.com, "hillarysbloggers" > <hillarysbloggers@> wrote: > > > > > > Bots are swarming folks - I need help! > > http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/2346 20/424 > > <http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/234620/424> > > > > Thanks! Alegre :)
If this comment somehow breaks site rules....feel free to hide it...no hard feelings. ;)
The same happens at Kos. The same happens at Kos for people to come here. The same happens all over the blogosphere.
wes Clark and John Edwards supporters did that all the time. There is nothing wrong with saying... "hey, there is a good XYZ candidate diary at blogX, please give it some help".
Obama people do it too.
so you can understand why your constant refrain of "Kos does it too!!" is extremely unpersuasive.
My "constant" refrain?
No... it is a reminder to all of the O supporters to look within and at Dkos before bashing MyDD and Jerome.
see?
not just Jerome but also before bashing other diarist such as Alegre
yes, it is a classic tu quoque. Did you google it?
If someone says "Person A is doing X, and X is bad." Responding with "But B does X too! What about B?" does absolutely nothing to rebut the proposition that X is bad. That's why nobody is persuaded when you use Kos to deflect criticism of posters here.
You don't get it. I am not trying to persuade anyone.
I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy of trying to call out MyDD, Jerome and some of the Hillary Clinton supporters.
I am not trying to say that some of these arguments are not valid. BUT as you point out these arguments fall on deaf ears and people are not persuaded because of the greater hypocrisy of Dkos, other places and other bloggers. (greater, because they are MUCH bigger)
but people shouldn't be gaming the rec list, either here or at Kos. Can you agree on that?
kind of.
But it will continue to happen. I have a feeling this diary got on the list because a call was put out to get it there.
There have been pro Obama diaries that have never made it to the the rec list but this diary that calls out a fellow blogger gets on the rec list with a huge amount of recs.
Kudos for getting it there but....
Nope. The only people who saw this diary did it because they clicked the link. I didn't alert anyone - however, some of the rec list diaries were fading, so that probably helped.
ages ago, when the kozzacks would do it.
but when she alleges that Obama would be stealing Indiana if he wins... well, that's not someone I would want on the rec list. It's called a loose cannon, and I wouldn't want to see that person up there every single day.
It's not about the person. It's about the diaries.
Names are good for getting clicks, but they don't (or shouldn't) get recs.
This isn't dkos for the 1000th time...
Do you not get it for the 100th time?
Some of you O people come here and COMPLAIN away about a diary, diarist or the admins but you seem to be BLIND to what happens at the BIGGEST blog of the all. Dkos.
get it?
geeez.
I'm not a member at Dkos....you are. And for someone who talks shit about it all the time, you seem to be over there quite a bit...
this how?
I have been on Dkos since 2003 or 04.. I don't really remember.
Now if you are not a "member" at dkos, then how do you know what I do at dkos?
Also... the amount that I use Dkos is about 5% of what it used to be simply because of what happened over there. I have the bruises and scars to prove it.
Ok. I don't know what you did at D Kos, but that still doesn't legitimize citing their actions to justify someone else's.
Ahhh, such nice manners here at MyDD. Such understanding. Such patience.
Let she/he who is without sin cast the first stone.
That would work, except that many of the more vocal H supporters on this site consider themselves to be without sin - just like they consider their candidate to be without sin.
I seem to recall this somewhere:
* Post as many comments as you like, but users that post comments that do nothing but name-call, denigrate the site users, or make inflammatory remarks will either be warned, or outright banned. * Do not troll rate (rating as 0) another user's comment unless it is a comment that is an attack on another user. Abusing this privilege will result in all your ratings being erased and/or getting a warning, or being banned.
* Do not troll rate (rating as 0) another user's comment unless it is a comment that is an attack on another user. Abusing this privilege will result in all your ratings being erased and/or getting a warning, or being banned.
But, then you've troll-rated non-attack comments of mine before, for no reason, and you haven't been banned from MyDD.
So, I guess all's fair...
If DKos does it, then many of the H supporters feel justified that MyDD does it.
I've been away from MyDD for months, since I was improperly banned. I shouldn't have come back. It's worse now.
Now let me take your words and spin them.
"So, I guess all's fair...
If MyDD does it, then many of the O supporters feel justified that Dkos does it.
I've been away from Dkos for months, since I was improperly banned. I shouldn't have come back. It's worse now."
Do you get my point?
I have seen the light! I see your point!!
Thank you for clearly pointing out to me what I have been missing all of this time.
You feel justified in improperly troll-rating users of MyDD because you were improperly troll-rated by people at Dkos.
And, you feel justified that I should have been improperly banned at MyDD because you were improperly banned at DKos.
Even though I did not troll-rate you at DKos or improperly ban you at Dkos, it is still appropriate for you (and the Admins) to do those things to me, because then justice is served in this surreal Intertube-world.
Thanks for clearing this up for me, kevin22262. It makes so much more sense now.
I take it that I'm now permanently banished from MyDD forever, and should hang my head in shame, and never post here again?
Ok. Such is life. Tu quoque.
Longos imitaris, kevin22262.
for proving my feelings about some of the O kids.
Thanks for proving my point about you troll-rating my posts improperly, for which you won't get warned or banned.
And, sorry to disprove your feelings.....I'm not one of the O kids.
I was, and am still, an Edwards adult. And a woman.
Don't patronize me.
don't act like an O kid. Or a child.
How exactly do you survive in the wild and wooly world of the unstable intertubes with a skin so thin?
Does sarcasm bite you so deeply?
Which part did you feel was acting like an "O kid" and which part was acting like "a child"?
Snark? Quoting scripture? Sarcasm? Quoting user rules? Publicly talking about your tendency to HR and TR without cause? Quoting Latin?
Or is your fallback position just to call someone names?
Not only shouldn't I have come back here, I also shouldn't have bothered posting anything.
I'll let you have the last words, kevin22262.
Make them good ones.
to prove that you act like a child.
And you continue to engage. If she's so immature, don't giveher your attention.
Nullane res potuit crudelis flectere mentis consilium? Tibi nulla fuit clementia praesto, immite ut nostri vellet miserescere pectus? - Gaius Valerius Catullus - LXIV
- Gaius Valerius Catullus - LXIV
You're right, don't give her [me] your attention, if I'm so immature!
As to the human race. There are many pretty and winning things about the human race. It is perhaps the poorest of all the inventions of all the gods but it has never suspected it once. There is nothing prettier than its naive and complacent appreciation of itself. It comes out frankly and proclaims without bashfulness or any sign of a blush that it is the noblest work of God. It has had a billion opportunities to know better, but all signs fail with this ass. I could say harsh things about it but I cannot bring myself to do it - it is like hitting a child. - Mark Twain, Autobiographical dictation
- Mark Twain, Autobiographical dictation
and this person continues to engage but in doing so also throws shit around.
whatever.
I hate to bring this up, but a lot of the troll-rate abuse I have seen on this site comes from one side... Clinton supporters who do not like what they have read... no personal attacks... no inappropriate comments... just divergent opinions.
You can't HR sarcasm. My God.
Thank you for noticing the HR, and uprating.
at me.
Why do you lie?? You aren't banned from Dkos, you just wrote a diary yesterday and have commented for the last week...Instead of bringing your complaints to Dkos you come over here so you can be surrounded by your "buddies" and then you throw your insults...can't do it at Dkos can ya??
Actually I've noticed it's pretty civil overthere with the exception of the occasional asshole, but if you can find a blog that doesn't have a few hanging around, let me know where that's at!
Kos has great issue and down ticket coverage, I think people forget that sometimes through all of the outlandish and inflammatory diaries that get posted over here to prove a point. I saw one that had two people rec it, most of the commenters said it was crappy, and yet still it was posted here because it fanned the flames of a blog war. Let's grow up a little!
How long have you been at Dkos?
I sometimes wonder if some of you O supporters are blind to what goes on over at Dkos because most of the diaries support O or bash Clinton.
The numbers of users and posters at Dkos greatly outnumbers MyDD, so you will see more variety and maybe not notice a diary hanging around as long. This is a fact that seem to allude many of you.
Since long before this primary season. One of the reasons I started coming on this site was because it did get nasty over there for awhile. But it's really died down since then. If you find yourself being the target of attacks over there, it may be because of the tone of argument you are using. I haven't seen anyone bash another for a well-informed civil disagreement and if they do, there are others who are willing to step in defense.
Alot of people need to come off their high horses and admit the dialogue's gotten just as muddy on this site.
it has not gotten bad here.
sure, whatever you say :\
then... ok?
I really don't want to get in a pissing contest with a skunk. But I've been accused of following a cult of personality, drinking the "Koolaid", taking Obama pills, being "one of the creepy crawly things", and these are the comments that come from trying to put level headed facts into the arguments. And that is the most alarming thing about it.
Not to say I've never said something stupid on this blog, but when I do, there are usually people there to point that out. But when people respond to me with insults when I'm trying to point out facts, it reminds me alot of when people used to call me a terrorist for not supporting the Iraq war. Me and my stupid facts...
First off... with a skunk?
Second... I have NEVER said those things to anyone!
hm.
Sorry, the skunk comment didn't come out right. In no way did I mean to put you in the lot with that dastardly Pepe le Pew.
And you may not have said those things. But those are just a few of my reasons that I think the dialogue in this site is just as bad as it ever was on Kos
What was your point in posting this?
Post what? My last comment?
Yep. Seemed like a fairly pointless comment to make; I wondered why you posted it.
